Wednesday, March 05, 2008


Clinton? Obama? How to choose???

by Larry Geller

I thought this was so well done I better bring it to you here, instead of just linking to Sam Smith's article in the Progressive Review Undernews.


Their positions are often barely indistinguishable from that of the

They have built their campaigns around genetic identity rather than on political principles and issues.

They take multiple positions on individual issues such as NAFTA

They have produced no interesting new ideas nor promised to fight for any important new programs

They have offered no good idea about how to handle the current economic crisis

They have gone about their campaigns as though they were leading a cult rather than a political movement

Clinton hangs out with a covert group of right wing GOP Christians;
Obama would name some of them to his cabinet.

They have similar voting records with Progressive Punch ranking Obama 19th and Clinton 24th in Senate

They both dissed Nader for daring to run for president again

Obama wrote that conservatives and Bill Clinton were right to destroy social welfare, Clinton supported her husband's program

Hillary Clinton comes in at 38th and Obama at 48th in the ranking of the League of Conservation Voters

Both have hawkish foreign policy advisors involved in past US misdeeds and failures

Both support Israeli aggression and apartheid. Obama has deserted
previous support for two-state solution to Mid East situation

Both have voted numerous times to continue funding the war

Both support or won't oppose nuclear power

Both support war on drugs

Both support Real ID

Both support No Child Left Behind

Both supported crack-cocaine sentence disparity

Both oppose single payer healthcare

Both support PATRIOT Act

Both support the death penalty

Both have no clear plan to leave Iraq and Afghanistan

Both support charter schools

Both support federally funded ethanol


Clinton would continue the 28 year old Reagan - Bush - Clinton - Bush
era; Obama would probably end it. 

While both have misled voters, Clinton has by far the worst record, witness the cattle futures, Whitewater, travel office and similar scandals as well as the fact that five of her fundraisers have been convicted of, or pleaded no contest to, crimes and one fled the country after being indicted on charges related to raising money. 

While they both have had seamy friends, so far only one has surfaced for Obama - Rezko - as opposed to a lengthy list for Clinton that begins with three close business partners who ended up in prison.

Obama, unlike Clinton, has never been almost indicted.

Obama, unlike Clinton, has never been mentioned 35 times in a criminal indictment.

Obama, unlike Clinton, has been involved in a resort land scam with in which about half the purchases, many of them seniors, lost their

Obama, unlike Clinton, is not currently being sued in a case involving an allegedly massive misreporting of campaign contributions.

Obama, unlike Clinton, did not support the appointment of the now indicted Bernie Kerick to be head of Homeland Security

Obama would be good at international negotiations; foreign leaders wouldn't know whether to trust Clinton.

Obama is not married to Bill Clinton

Obama has revealed his tax returns; Clinton hasn't

Clinton thinks McCain would be better qualified for the White House than Obama; Obama would rather have Clinton than McCain

The Clinton administration, according to an HRC ad, wouldn't answer an emergency White House call until the sixth ring; the Obama administration, it is implied, would wait for the seventh.

Obama voted against immunity for telecoms' illegal spying on Americans; Clinton didn't show up for the vote.

Obama has inspired a lot of young and minority voters to get involved in politics; Clinton has relied upon a traditional and aging constituency.

Obama favored cluster bomb ban in civilian areas; Clinton opposed the

Obama says "everything is on the table" with Social Security. Clinton
seems slightly more supportive of the classic Democratic program

Obama opposed putting heating fuel assistance for low income in stimulus bill; Clinton supported it


Promises not to sign a trade bill without environmental and labor

Helped fight for restoration of habeas corpus at Gitmo.

Aggressively opposed impeachment action against Bush.

Wouldn't have photo taken with San Francisco mayor because he was afraid it would seem that he supported gay marriage

Supported restricting damage awards in medical malpractices suits

Supported making it harder to file class action suits in state courts

Misled on extent on lobbyist support

Called the late Paul Wellstone "something of a gadfly"

Voted for a business-friendly "tort reform" bill

Voted for a nuclear energy bill that included money for bunker buster
bombs and full funding for Yucca Mountain.

Won't rule out first strike nuclear attack on Iran

Received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006

Went to Connecticut to support Joe Lieberman in the primary against Ned Lamont

Refuses to take a position on the anti-constitutional Homegrown
Terrorism Prevention Act

Called Pakistan "the right battlefield ... in the war on terrorism." Threatened to invade Pakistan

Sounds sort of like Tony Robbins

Uses various evangelical cons to win supporters

Has not revealed his proposed policies in many areas and where he has they primarily consist of minor alterations in the status quo

Voted against a 30% interest rate cap on credit cards

Opposed the war as a state senator, is less certain as a federal one and has voted for full funding of it

Wrote critically in his books of the New Deal and the New Left while
praising Bill Clinton,


Favors healthcare individual mandates that would help insurance companies and banks but not citizens

Has the most number of foreign lobbyist contributors

Is even more popular with Pentagon contractors than McCain

Is most popular with K Street lobbyists

Is only First Lady to come under criminal investigation

Has received the most funds from oil industry

Has received the most funds from health industry

Gave most number of evasive answers (250) to congressional inquiries

Submitted the largest false campaign finance report

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Thanks, they both make me sick. I am voting for Nader. Josephine

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